gw2guilds.org
there's a new website out there thats essentially a compendium of all the guilds. should we look into posting on here? it's a fresh site, but evolving quickly apparently.
gw2guilds.org
Cubby
Unknown Person
Re: gw2guilds.org
I saw this a little while ago but I kind of tossed it aside. Sites like this never seem fit for purpose (to me anyway) They list thousands of guilds and most of them will never have enough members to make it off the ground.
Within the first year I bet over 75% of the guilds on that website no long exist (or are in maintenance mode, so to speak) and thus it eliminates his usefulness. The best way to find guilds is searching through guild recruitment forums. Because people tend to bump threads of the guilds that are still alive.
But I guess it wouldn't do any harm adding us to the list, what do you all think?
Within the first year I bet over 75% of the guilds on that website no long exist (or are in maintenance mode, so to speak) and thus it eliminates his usefulness. The best way to find guilds is searching through guild recruitment forums. Because people tend to bump threads of the guilds that are still alive.
But I guess it wouldn't do any harm adding us to the list, what do you all think?
Cubby
Re: gw2guilds.org
i like how they have the descriptions or "labels" under each server, would be great to see "unofficial lgbt server" under one, but then again, it could be an open invitation to harassment
bluegamers
Re: gw2guilds.org
Generally when you are dealing with other games, they usually end up barely getting noticed at all, however as a long time Guild Wars 1 player, ArenaNet has a habit of advertising useful or overly popular websites at times too and the community is great for spreading information around especially on the guild wars fan sites.
It would be worth adding us to the list since we are a PvX guild as well. But, I think we should probably wait regardless once we know where we are gonna be of course as well.
It would be worth adding us to the list since we are a PvX guild as well. But, I think we should probably wait regardless once we know where we are gonna be of course as well.
Siafu
Re: gw2guilds.org
I wish I could give you some grand advise about this topic...part of me thinks cautiously and the other half of me says why not...I guess the question is...If we are listed there is it going to hurt us (harassment issues etc.) or help us (recruiting etc.) ????
I'm on the fence because this is the first time I've ever been in a gay-friendly guild and I have no experience to drawl upon.....I suppose if I had to commit to one side or the other I would say this...
....life is full of unknowns....and challenges....I love a challenge and I'm an adventurer as well...so what the hell.....go for it. ;)
I'm on the fence because this is the first time I've ever been in a gay-friendly guild and I have no experience to drawl upon.....I suppose if I had to commit to one side or the other I would say this...
....life is full of unknowns....and challenges....I love a challenge and I'm an adventurer as well...so what the hell.....go for it. ;)
nniicc
Re: gw2guilds.org
Read this thread if you want to know how scared some straight guys are about an unofficial glbt server.
kiddkasper
Re: gw2guilds.org
Read this thread if you want to know how scared some straight guys are about an unofficial glbt server.
I see that thread from a different point of view. Except for those few that tried to slide in some hate, it seemed like most tried to have a reasonable discussion about it.
nniicc
Re: gw2guilds.org
Read this thread if you want to know how scared some straight guys are about an unofficial glbt server.
I see that thread from a different point of view. Except for those few that tried to slide in some hate, it seemed like most tried to have a reasonable discussion about it.
True, compared to other similar forum threads, only one post was purely an insult. Compared to the SWTOR same gender romance arc flame thread, this remained a mature discussion. In general the community on that forum don't troll/qq/... much. I don't know if that tells something about curse forum communities or about the guild wars 2 community.
The 'vocal minority' in that thread doesn't seem to like an unofficial glbt sever. Ranging from people saying that we're supposed to blend in because it's a game so our sexuality does not matter, to people being worried about the straight minority on an unofficial glbt sever.
What 'reasonable discussion'? If we want to group up on a server that is our decision to make. We're not telling anyone one else on what server they should play. Why does a straight guy open a thread about it? Why do so many straight people respond? What are they scared off?
kiddkasper
Re: gw2guilds.org
Read this thread if you want to know how scared some straight guys are about an unofficial glbt server.
I see that thread from a different point of view. Except for those few that tried to slide in some hate, it seemed like most tried to have a reasonable discussion about it.
True, compared to other similar forum threads, only one post was purely an insult. Compared to the SWTOR same gender romance arc flame thread, this remained a mature discussion. In general the community on that forum don't troll/qq/... much. I don't know if that tells something about curse forum communities or about the guild wars 2 community.
The 'vocal minority' in that thread doesn't seem to like an unofficial glbt sever. Ranging from people saying that we're supposed to blend in because it's a game so our sexuality does not matter, to people being worried about the straight minority on an unofficial glbt sever.
What 'reasonable discussion'? If we want to group up on a server that is our decision to make. We're not telling anyone one else on what server they should play. Why does a straight guy open a thread about it? Why do so many straight people respond? What are they scared off?
I wouldn't say that they're scared per se. I don't know what motivation the guy had for opening the thread. But oftentimes, topics are brought to a public forum in order for the original poster to get input from others so that they can flesh out how they feel about it. Maybe he was trying to understand the reasons for having a glbt server. I'm not sure. What I meant by reasonable discussion is that people offered their opinion on the matter in a seemingly mature way.
I can see the viewpoint because I've played on servers that had nothing to do with the glbt community as well as be a part of guilds that were not glbt in nature. However, there wasn't any discrimination from the guild members, the guild leader didn't allow it. And yes, they knew that I was gay. So, I can see the point that in some instances a server designated for the glbt community isn't necessary. Playing a MMO isn't about sexuality (at least not to me) and can play quite well with others. However, I can also fully understand and support the notion that in order to provide a "safe" atmosphere for our guild members, we would probably be better off on a server with individuals that we can reasonably expect won't go off gay bashing whenever they get the chance. Some of that might occur on the server. But, on an official or unofficial glbt server, it should be at a minimum.
RodgerPM
Re: gw2guilds.org
I dunno, there's an old essay that I think still applies today. I'll quote it below..
It's from "With Downcast Gays" by Andrew Hodges and David Hutter. (Link goes to the text.)
The text is somewhat dated, but I think it can be applied to all non-straight, non-gender conforming peoples. Who we are is based, in large part, on who we form relationships with and what could be more natural than for us to want to form relationships at all levels with some people who are like us?
It's from "With Downcast Gays" by Andrew Hodges and David Hutter. (Link goes to the text.)
Nominal integration is no abstract matter: gay clubs have been opposed on the grounds that homosexuals should not be creating ghettoes but should be mixing with everyone else. Liberals who talk in this facile way have grasped the notion of individuals stignatised by the label ‘homosexual’ but not what that label is all about.
Homosexuality is not simply a personal quirk but a matter of relationships, and as such requires social expression. What could be more natural than for homosexuals to enjoy each others’ company — even in a society in which homosexuality was not stignatised. The reactionary blimp who rumbles on about “secret societies” is in fact closer to the truth than the liberal who claims that homosexuals are no different from anyone else.
Talk of “getting homosexuals out of the ghettoes” conceals both the liberal dislike of groupings which exclude him and the fact that most gays would dearly like a ghetto to get out of. The liberal vents his displeasure by telling gay people that they are divisive if they fail to mix socially with non-gay people, saying that instead they should devote their energies tro the life of the community as a whole.
Liberals so easily betray the emptiness of their calls for integration*. Mary Stott in theGuardianchides lesbians for feeling like outcasts, and then in next breath says that “we” should “accept” homosexuals — as though the readership of theGuardianwere exclusively heterosexual! The liberal “we” invariably excludes the very minority whose integration is being urged.
The text is somewhat dated, but I think it can be applied to all non-straight, non-gender conforming peoples. Who we are is based, in large part, on who we form relationships with and what could be more natural than for us to want to form relationships at all levels with some people who are like us?
nniicc
Re: gw2guilds.org
In real life i have to listen to enough conversions by straight guys complaining about their wives and straight women talking about their children, conversations to which i have nothing to contribute. I don't live in a ghetto: all my neighbours, colleagues and family are straight. In my free time i prefer to socialize with people i can relate better to. That is the reason i joined stonewall when SWTOR was released. Not because of potential harassment, because then i would be better off staying on a european server.
When these people say that we shouldn't segregate ourself, i feel insulted. That is not the reason why i posted the the link though. All i wanted to say was that people should read that thread before publicly announcing a server to be the unofficial glbt server.
When these people say that we shouldn't segregate ourself, i feel insulted. That is not the reason why i posted the the link though. All i wanted to say was that people should read that thread before publicly announcing a server to be the unofficial glbt server.
Kerstov
Re: gw2guilds.org
I liked this post:
Soon, we might even see the request for unofficial:
- a non-Elementalist server because they keep drowning me with particle effects and killing stuff before I can do anything
haha
Soon, we might even see the request for unofficial:
- a non-Elementalist server because they keep drowning me with particle effects and killing stuff before I can do anything
haha
deegeezee
Re: gw2guilds.org
I liked this post:
Soon, we might even see the request for unofficial:
- a non-Elementalist server because they keep drowning me with particle effects and killing stuff before I can do anything
haha
omg, that's hilarious! I wouldn't be completely opposed to a de-necromancer server, as they kinda squick me. ;)
Just think if this game had smell-o-vision....
tennek
Re: gw2guilds.org
omg, that's hilarious! I wouldn't be completely opposed to a de-necromancer server, as they kinda squick me. ;)
Just think if this game had smell-o-vision....
Hey! Do not de-necromance me :)
Kerstov
Re: gw2guilds.org
Interesting metrics on Server selection, playstyle and focus:
http://www.asuralabs.com/serverPoll.php
http://www.asuralabs.com/serverPoll.php
stitch
Re: gw2guilds.org
Interesting metrics on Server selection, playstyle and focus:
http://www.asuralabs.com/serverPoll.php
Very nice site
Confirms the fact that i believe Crystal Desert was the perfect choice! :D