Mattachine Fleet?

Had a run-in today with an extremely testy, and rude, player named Sable from the Mattachine Fleet. He took a couple of potshots about us "Stonewallers", totally unprovoked I might add, that suggest a history. Is he a disgruntled former member or something?

What kind of potshots are we talking about (no need to repeat them of course)? I have never heard of him, but that is just because I am still new.

Did he just randomly come up to you in-game and start talking to you or were you in a PUG for STF?

It took place in a PUG, Cure Space to be exact. While he did successfully start a fight with another member of the PUG I stayed out of it, and then he just randomly said at the end of the group something to the effect of "Good Job everyone, even the Stonewaller". I asked him what that meant. He then said it was "Sarcasim" (sic,). After I asked him what I did to him, and telling him to at least spell his insult correctly, he said that Stonewallers are all alike, rude as hell, and can't take a joke. I didn't reply to that as he obviously was a bit irrational, but just found it curious that he felt the need to troll a fight with someone who literally couldn't have been nicer during the PUG.


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I'm sorry you have had an unpleasant experience with a member of Mattachine Fleet and you did the right thing not replying as you're probably not going to get anywhere.

I won't bore you with the long story (one of the other officers might be willing to fill you in) but basically a long time ago a few of our members split off after a disagreement. They formed a Fleet called TMT Fleet and has since changed names to the Mattachine Fleet.

I don't know the person in question and I have no idea if he was a member of Stonewall but, as I understand it, every attempt to bridge the gap between fleets has been rejected.

Probably best just to let it go and continue saving the federation.

Alright guys, Mattachine fleet used to be called TMT. When I started looking for an LGBT Fleet I found Stonewall and TMT, and really the deciding factor was I liked Stonewalls website better.

When I first joined Stonewall we had just done a Fleet vs Fleet event-which I enjoyed. I suggested that we should do an event with TMT.

I was literally told (i dont remember who said it, as it was so long ago) to Shut up, not to bring TMT up-ever again or else. This is the truth. It took me becoming an Officer before I brought it up again.

I do not believe in secrets, however I do not believe that im in a position to explain the past. Suffice it to say that even new people in Mattachine go out of their way to provoke us, this I have experienced first hand.

Its sad, it sucks, and blows. I would love for our two fleets to atleast "not be openly hostile" but I know our officers have reached out to them, but someone was burned so badly so long ago that we get nothing except contempt.

Im sorry you experienced this, there are so few places for LGBTQIA's to feel like they belong that the 2 main fleets for us not getting along just hurts my heart.

My best advice is to just be cordial and sweet and do not react negatively if you possibly can-eventually it is my greatest goal to see our two fleets amicable to each other.
thankx,
Caleb

p.s. dang...it got ninja'd :side:

The other option is not to engage, if there going to try and goat us in to a response, I'd rather not give them any.

From what I've heard, Mattachine Fleet use to be TMT Fleet, which was started by a previous member of Stonewall Fleet. I'm not sure who Sable is or even if Simale is still running the fleet. I've tried reaching out to Simale before, but I've only gotten my hand slapped. We've invited them to participate in our pride celebrations, but they don't come.

Well, I certainly don't plan on being goaded into an altercation, so I will be closing hailing frequencies in those types of situations.