Very quiet since the guild split

Hey folks. I'm not sure if it is just coincidence of the guild split or the 30 days is up for the free month, but Ive noticed that it has become very quiet when I log in between 9-10 PST. I also noticed the online on the Jedi guild is about 12-15 the last few nights, so if I assume that about 12-15 is in the sister guild at the same time, its about 15-20 members less on average then just a couple of weeks ago.

When I log in and say hi the last two nights, there's been no response and I barely see any chat at all in the main channel. Just a week ago the guild chat was so lively. I realize the split by class was over-dramatized by some (I never voted here, would have voted against it, but its not that important to me) and the joint channel should allow for the same level of chat as before, but is any one else noticing it or is it just me? Maybe its just the typical lull post launch perhaps.

When I've been on I haven't noticed it being quiet. I haven't been on the last 2 nights as I have been leveling my bounty hunter. It could be a combination of quite of few things. The holiday breaks being over, people getting to a level they had a goal and rolled an alt on the imp side to try it. It could also be like you said with the end of the 30 days and people quitting.

Unfortunately there isn't a way in guild info to see like last played time so I really couldn't give you a trend pattern as I might otherwise be able to figure out. I know on the weekends it is busy though it could be possible peoples schedules just changed.

yea I haven't played much on the weekend, just noticed the last couple of nights. Probably just me :-)

I know it doesn't solve the immediate question but I can say honestly the best way to get more people into the guild is to actually be socialable outside of the guild. You guys are all really cool people to hang with (I hope you all realize this). So by questing and grouping up with others you will actually get them interested in our guild.

Then when they ask you just refer them to the website to get registered and we'll get them all setup. Word of mouth in an MMO is the best advertising! This also helps people to get more people in the guild during a time that they play.

I'd be leaning towards the fact that the holidays are over with, and people are getting back to their regular schedules. The nights I log in, most of the time chat is rocking. It does quiet down a bit every so often, which I always assume is when most of the people logged in are out running quests.

I'm on every nite from 5:30pm - 10pm EST and yes guild chat has been quiet. Thou at times it's more active when folks are asking questions about crafting or in game stuffs.

It's bound to happen with guild split, folks leaving the guild and paying attention to the npc's and their dialog. Don't forget space missions, when I do all of them it takes about 35-40 min and you are unable to speak in guild chat or see it.

Whats sad is that in SoS there maybe 2-6 folks on while in KoS there are 25+ folks on, many in SoS complain that it's lonely even thou there is the joint chat channel.

We've had alot of folks leave the guild so I'm not sure if there is really a need for two separate guilds. The officers could go thru and remove those that have not logged in 30 days I bet we could re combine the guilds and just hold on to the SoS guild as a back up if needed.

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We've had alot of folks leave the guild so I'm not sure if there is really a need for two separate guilds. The officers could go thru and remove those that have not logged in 30 days I bet we could re combine the guilds and just hold on to the SoS guild as a back up if needed.

Although ideally that would make sense the current guild system does not allow for you to check when a users last time logged on was. So it would be a pure guessing game.

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We've had alot of folks leave the guild so I'm not sure if there is really a need for two separate guilds. The officers could go thru and remove those that have not logged in 30 days I bet we could re combine the guilds and just hold on to the SoS guild as a back up if needed.

Although ideally that would make sense the current guild system does not allow for you to check when a users last time logged on was. So it would be a pure guessing game.

I might have my games mixed up then as I thought you could see when the user last logged in? Oh well it was a good idea and would make folks feel more at home in the guild instead of being out in left field.

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I might have my games mixed up then as I thought you could see when the user last logged in? Oh well it was a good idea and would make folks feel more at home in the guild instead of being out in left field.

I'm actually quite confused myself why a simple feature like that wasn't put in place. I know I personally have been thinking a lot of what to do even in the event this never gets put into place and keep hitting brick walls. As I think we can all agree on we don't eventually want a ton of guilds with most the members being inactive but no one ever knowing for sure if people are or not.

To be honest there are always people on when I play but their may be a couple reasons beyond the ones given in the precious responses. The most logical reasons would be that:

1. Although we are on a West coast server our guild members are all over the globe. I am on the East coast myself and the times you are on dont sync with mine due to my work schedule.

2. A month ago when the game began it was a holiday week. A lot of our fellow guildies had off from work and school to play more.

3. School is also back in session for our college level guildmates.

My advice would be to sign on to Vent and check the forums to see who is on when you are. I want all of my fellow Knights to have a good time playing, so if you are on the Republic side I can arrange to help you when I am free on nights and weekends.

-Kevin ~ Captain Xal Starlighter

I just also realized with the channel changes some still aren't using KoS and may be there but not responding due to that.

Something else to keep an eye out for is that the Custom channels are, and to put it generously, buggy.

I know that both I and Zep need to /cjoin the channels repeatedly during play. According to Varel it doesn't actually log us out of the channel (e.g. a message says "Kor has left channel 'Stonewall'"), but the UI drops it from our chat windows, so we lose the ability to see it until we remember to /cjoin again.

This might be happening with others. They joined the channel when we announced it last week, then never think to check again.

I've submitted several help desk tickets about this issue, so I'm hoping BioWare is taking note. I am absolutely stunned that I don't see many people with similar issues on the BioWare forums. Of course, it doesn't help that you can't search their forums directly.

I'd initially thought it had to do with "zoning" (any time the load window needs to come up), but have discovered it will just happen randomly. I suspect it still might be when I cross server lines within a map (something we as players aren't aware of in this modern age of MMO gaming), but have no way to prove or disprove that theory.

At any rate, if things seem unusually quiet, just double check that the KoS channel is still listed in your chat window. I hope the problem is focused on just a few of us, rather than being relatively widespread.

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Something else to keep an eye out for is that the Custom channels are, and to put it generously, buggy.

I know that both I and Zep need to /cjoin the channels repeatedly during play. According to Varel it doesn't actually log us out of the channel (e.g. a message says "Kor has left channel 'Stonewall'"), but the UI drops it from our chat windows, so we lose the ability to see it until we remember to /cjoin again.

I don't know if either of you are in more than stonewall/kos channels but I have heard this happening to people who are in 3 channels.

Ahhh! That's got to be it. Yes I know that we each have at least one other channel we added before KoS.

Why aren't YOU working Tech Support at BioWare?!

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Ahhh! That's got to be it. Yes I know that we each have at least one other channel we added before KoS.

Why aren't YOU working Tech Support at BioWare?!

Because then there would be nothing to talk about other than the story line lol.

In response to the O/P, yes the past few nights have felt like a ghost town for me as well. I logged into my Orrion character, posted a greeting in the Stonewall channel and got no responses. I started playing and it was a good 15 minutes before I saw anybody else make a comment in either the KoS guild channel or Stonewall. I was on Quesh at the time, trying to solo and I ended up dieing. Doogiegood and a group of his new guildmates happened to show up right then and they res'ed me. I hate to say it, but I was tempted to jump ship right then and there. I really hope this lull in guild activity is a temporary thing, because it felt really lonely the other night and that's not the kind of guild experience I want to have.

As somebody else said, the LoS side of our guild is fairly active. I dusted off my Sorceress the other night and played her for a while. The one thing I did find disturbing were people from LoS badmouthing KoS. It felt really uncomfortable hearing negative things being said by our own people. I realize some people are die-hard Imperials and some are die-hard rebels, but some people enjoy both and shouldn't have to feel like an outsider when they visit the other side. Just my two cents.

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In response to the O/P, yes the past few nights have felt like a ghost town for me as well. I logged into my Orrion character, posted a greeting in the Stonewall channel and got no responses. I started playing and it was a good 15 minutes before I saw anybody else make a comment in either the KoS guild channel or Stonewall. I was on Quesh at the time, trying to solo and I ended up dieing. Doogiegood and a group of his new guildmates happened to show up right then and they res'ed me. I hate to say it, but I was tempted to jump ship right then and there. I really hope this lull in guild activity is a temporary thing, because it felt really lonely the other night and that's not the kind of guild experience I want to have.

As somebody else said, the LoS side of our guild is fairly active. I dusted off my Sorceress the other night and played her for a while. The one thing I did find disturbing were people from LoS badmouthing KoS. It felt really uncomfortable hearing negative things being said by our own people. I realize some people are die-hard Imperials and some are die-hard rebels, but some people enjoy both and shouldn't have to feel like an outsider when they visit the other side. Just my two cents.

If it's the night that I'm aware of, that person was confronted about that.

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In response to the O/P, yes the past few nights have felt like a ghost town for me as well. I logged into my Orrion character, posted a greeting in the Stonewall channel and got no responses. I started playing and it was a good 15 minutes before I saw anybody else make a comment in either the KoS guild channel or Stonewall. I was on Quesh at the time, trying to solo and I ended up dieing. Doogiegood and a group of his new guildmates happened to show up right then and they res'ed me. I hate to say it, but I was tempted to jump ship right then and there. I really hope this lull in guild activity is a temporary thing, because it felt really lonely the other night and that's not the kind of guild experience I want to have.

As somebody else said, the LoS side of our guild is fairly active. I dusted off my Sorceress the other night and played her for a while. The one thing I did find disturbing were people from LoS badmouthing KoS. It felt really uncomfortable hearing negative things being said by our own people. I realize some people are die-hard Imperials and some are die-hard rebels, but some people enjoy both and shouldn't have to feel like an outsider when they visit the other side. Just my two cents.

This is pretty sad and I'm sorry you had to go thru this. :( This is one of many reasons I will not have my toons join LoS.

Come back to the light side,,,,at least it's quiet over here. :lol:

I've played characters on both Republic and Empire sides and I've found both sides to be really friendly and communicative. I have, admittedly, been playing my Empire toons quite heavily since before the issues on the Republic side appeared so I haven't had a chance to see any impact on activity on that side.

I think it's important to say here - noone should ever feel unwelcome on either side. If you feel uncomfortable about something that is happening in chat, raise it with an Officer/Captain in private. If you can't for whatever reason (not comfortable about it/none online/etc.) then send Zepari (or any of the new officers) a message here on the forums. It'll be addressed.

I do feel sad that people have expressed that they feel unwelcome in LoS, that they wouldn't put their toons in the guild or that LoS should be avoided for whatever reason. I have found the people in LoS to be helpful and friendly whenever I'm online.

We're all here for the same reason - to play a game we love in an environment that is meant to provide a sense of community and ability to be oneself.

And this is exactly why I am resigning as Captain.

I know you cannot please everyone, but some folks just have way to high expectations and dealing with it as a Captain takes the enjoyment out of the game. That is me being polite.