Can you change your ways?

Jon

Justjon

Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
I'm currently a level 32 Bounty hunter and I'm at 5100 dark. If I decided to go light am I to late? I'm not even 100% sure what the perks are and if at this time they are even worth it.
Angel

Angelsilhouette

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
Dunno, anymore. But you can farm Black Talon for 200 light side per run if you so wished.
Lance

colivia

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
I think it would be interesting to try...if you have equipment equipped that requires dark side points, does it get automatically unequipped when your dark status changes? Or can you keep wearing it and just never equip it again...
Jon

Justjon

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
Quote by colivia
I think it would be interesting to try...if you have equipment equipped that requires dark side points, does it get automatically unequipped when your dark status changes? Or can you keep wearing it and just never equip it again...


I believe the stats go red so they basically force you to by voiding the gear out. I'll let you know how it works out because after doing Chapter 1 for my BH I feel like I need to go in another direction.
Kidd Kasper

kiddkasper

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
Quote by Justjon
I believe the stats go red so they basically force you to by voiding the gear out. I'll let you know how it works out because after doing Chapter 1 for my BH I feel like I need to go in another direction.


I'm just curious as to why you think you need to go in another direction as I too am going down a dark path.
Jon

Justjon

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
Quote by kiddkasper
Quote by Justjon
I believe the stats go red so they basically force you to by voiding the gear out. I'll let you know how it works out because after doing Chapter 1 for my BH I feel like I need to go in another direction.


I'm just curious as to why you think you need to go in another direction as I too am going down a dark path.


Without giving anything away basically people talk to you and you get asked to do things. So to me it felt like to play my character the way I would like to (due to these events) he needed to make life changes and think before he acted.

I know its silly because it's just a game but the story line really has me it's like a movie that I control lol.
Kidd Kasper

kiddkasper

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
Quote by Justjon
Without giving anything away basically people talk to you and you get asked to do things. So to me it felt like to play my character the way I would like to (due to these events) he needed to make life changes and think before he acted.

I know its silly because it's just a game but the story line really has me it's like a movie that I control lol.



Hrmmm, now I'm really wondering. I've taken my BH all evil, but I'm wondering how the story will unfold with those choices.
Dustin

DustinJames

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
You could pick up the Diplomacy crew skills. I'm at 100 or so right now and I get 40 or so points per mission (plus medical supplies or companion gifts of course).
Jon

Justjon

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 01 2012
Quote by kiddkasper
Quote by Justjon
Without giving anything away basically people talk to you and you get asked to do things. So to me it felt like to play my character the way I would like to (due to these events) he needed to make life changes and think before he acted.

I know its silly because it's just a game but the story line really has me it's like a movie that I control lol.



Hrmmm, now I'm really wondering. I've taken my BH all evil, but I'm wondering how the story will unfold with those choices.


Yea I don't want to say much because it's a really interesting story line but when you finish chapter one feel free to send me a private message in game or on the forums lol.

Quote by DustinJames
You could pick up the Diplomacy crew skills. I'm at 100 or so right now and I get 40 or so points per mission (plus medical supplies or companion gifts of course).


I may have to do that when I get one of my other toons higher level or max out my Armortech as of right now I still need the underworld metals B)
Patrick

Van

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Justjon great post. As I'm in the same boat with my Jedi Knight. Thankfully I'm only lvl 22. I decided to shelf this char and start over. (new JK is lvl 14)

I got very fustrated with going down the dark path as everytime I picked the dark option my companion gave me negative pts. Yes I know I could buy them gifts and yes I could dismiss them before entering a dialog but that was to much to keep remembering and gifts get expensive.

So basically I will eventually delete my dark path toon and stay with the light side one. I know this isn't an option for you as your pretty high up on the lvl. I'm glad I know now that going down the dark path is really problematic in game.
Jon

Justjon

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Quote by Van
Justjon great post. As I'm in the same boat with my Jedi Knight. Thankfully I'm only lvl 22. I decided to shelf this char and start over. (new JK is lvl 14)

I got very fustrated with going down the dark path as everytime I picked the dark option my companion gave me negative pts. Yes I know I could buy them gifts and yes I could dismiss them before entering a dialog but that was to much to keep remembering and gifts get expensive.

So basically I will eventually delete my dark path toon and stay with the light side one. I know this isn't an option for you as your pretty high up on the lvl. I'm glad I know now that going down the dark path is really problematic in game.


Actually the higher rep you gain with them the less points they take away. So it's the conversations that matter most like when interacting with other npcs and even them.
Dustin

DustinJames

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
A questions I do have though is this:

Jazmine has something like 3600 Light Point and 600 Dark Points, my alignment states 3000 (estimate), would I need 400 more points to become light 3, or 1000 points? I would think the latter, but I'm just not sure.
Patrick

Van

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Quote by Justjon
Quote by Van
Justjon great post. As I'm in the same boat with my Jedi Knight. Thankfully I'm only lvl 22. I decided to shelf this char and start over. (new JK is lvl 14)

I got very fustrated with going down the dark path as everytime I picked the dark option my companion gave me negative pts. Yes I know I could buy them gifts and yes I could dismiss them before entering a dialog but that was to much to keep remembering and gifts get expensive.

So basically I will eventually delete my dark path toon and stay with the light side one. I know this isn't an option for you as your pretty high up on the lvl. I'm glad I know now that going down the dark path is really problematic in game.


Actually the higher rep you gain with them the less points they take away. So it's the conversations that matter most like when interacting with other npcs and even them.


The problem was that I couldn't even break 300 affection pts for my companions. In one case I choose a dark side option that caused my companion to give me -120 affection pts. After reaching lvl 22 and my affection is only 300 pts to the good for my companions I decided to create the toon over, it wasn't hard as I'm already at lvl 14 with one days play time.
Edited January 03 2012 by Van
Brad

Jedilicious

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Quote by Justjon
Without giving anything away basically people talk to you and you get asked to do things. So to me it felt like to play my character the way I would like to (due to these events) he needed to make life changes and think before he acted.

I know its silly because it's just a game but the story line really has me it's like a movie that I control lol.


I don't think that's silly at all, Jon. I think that's what the game designers intended.

But I'm curious... what's the point of playing a Bounty Hunter that's Light? Why not play a Smuggler?

I'm a bit confused myself on the choices in game. I'm finding myself making choices to get Light points and to gain companion affection, but those aren't the choices I actually WANT to make at times. I have no idea how my choices will affect end-game play, so I'm trying to play "The Good Jedi" role.

What would happen if a Jedi Knight kept choosing Dark Side? Would they eventually be able to convert to a Sith Warrior? I just don't understand the consequences of choices I'm making at this point.
Tommy

Tommy

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Quote by Jedilicious
But I'm curious... what's the point of playing a Bounty Hunter that's Light? Why not play a Smuggler?


Mako, the first bounty hunter companion :)! She's a bit of a carebear and has swayed quite a few bounty hunters to the Light Side to unlock her story quests. I'm not a bounty hunter, but I've been grouping with one a lot. Mako rocks.
Edited January 03 2012 by Tommy
Nic

nniicc

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Quote by Jedilicious

But I'm curious... what's the point of playing a Bounty Hunter that's Light? Why not play a Smuggler?
What would happen if a Jedi Knight kept choosing Dark Side? Would they eventually be able to convert to a Sith Warrior?


You can not changes sides. The quests for republic and for imperial side are 100% different. A BH can do BH class quests and republic quests. A Smuggler does the smuggler class quests and imperial quests.

There is armor/weapons that requires a certain amount of either light or dark side points. There are no grey rewards. You need to choose dark side or light side and then stick to it, otherwise you will not be able to use these light/dark side armor/weapons.
Jon

Justjon

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 03 2012
Quote by Jedilicious
Quote by Justjon
Without giving anything away basically people talk to you and you get asked to do things. So to me it felt like to play my character the way I would like to (due to these events) he needed to make life changes and think before he acted.

I know its silly because it's just a game but the story line really has me it's like a movie that I control lol.


I don't think that's silly at all, Jon. I think that's what the game designers intended.

But I'm curious... what's the point of playing a Bounty Hunter that's Light? Why not play a Smuggler?

I'm a bit confused myself on the choices in game. I'm finding myself making choices to get Light points and to gain companion affection, but those aren't the choices I actually WANT to make at times. I have no idea how my choices will affect end-game play, so I'm trying to play "The Good Jedi" role.

What would happen if a Jedi Knight kept choosing Dark Side? Would they eventually be able to convert to a Sith Warrior? I just don't understand the consequences of choices I'm making at this point.


Play a BH till the end of chapter one. Not all Bounty Hunters are dark its a moral line. Dark/Light is more of a moral choice rather than if you are good or evil. On the empire side light choices aren't always the "nicer" way to handle things. When you are prompted to do light or dark it is more of a moral choice time and what we want to do.

There is light sided and Dark side vendors who will give you gear depending on if you meet the requirement like Dark III or Light III. Other than that dark and light is mostly times that just shape your story.

Mako actually has nothing to do with why I am changing. I am Dark 3 and at 5k affection with Mako normally when I do things she doesn't like I just get -1 now. The story line itself is the reason I wanted to start leaning to the light side.
Brad

Jedilicious

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 04 2012
Quote by Tommy
Quote by Jedilicious
But I'm curious... what's the point of playing a Bounty Hunter that's Light? Why not play a Smuggler?


Mako, the first bounty hunter companion :)! She's a bit of a carebear and has swayed quite a few bounty hunters to the Light Side to unlock her story quests. I'm not a bounty hunter, but I've been grouping with one a lot. Mako rocks.


I've noticed Kira has a number of quests for me (I'm hanging full-right with the Light), but are you suggesting if I'd chosen Dark responses she'd have different storyline quests for me?

Really wish there was a flowchart for all the choice permutations. Just big-picture. :)
Patrick

Van

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 05 2012
Quote by Jedilicious
Really wish there was a flowchart for all the choice permutations. Just big-picture. :)


For me it's fun not knowing the end story before I get there. I'm going light on all my toons and it's really fun to see the dialog options I have with them. I won't say to much as I don't want to spoil things but I even helped Corso out since I was full light on my smuggler.
Edited January 05 2012 by Van
Erik Branman

Xakhareth

Re: Can you change your ways?

January 08 2012
re: Jedilicious -

Really wish there was a flowchart for all the choice permutations. Just big-picture.


I'll see if I can re-google it, but I came across a site where you would have all the possible dialogue choices as well as the corresponding point increase/decrease ....

just spent a bit searching and cannot find it. /grumble

But, I will say this - dark choices definitely do make some things rather difficult, even as a Sith Inquisitor. I've had random NPCs attack me, and twice I've made dark choices that I'm not sure there will be *major* consequences for later or if it was just part of a storyline that gets dropped.

Without giving anything away, let's just say that getting an in-game mail from a powerful NPC that has as its subject "You Lying Filth" seems to indicate that I'm not very loved. :evil: