That just seems stupid tbh. MMOs are suppose to be social and not being able to chat to a friend on the same server, just on the other faction, isn't very social.

It was no problem at all! I had an amazing time again this year...miss everyone so much! Can't wait for the next trip......LLAP

Definitely a BIG THANKS to Bradley and Doug for helping to make such a wonderful weekend for us all. Also I gotta give it up to Brandon for putting together the Dining With the Devs event, it was really cool to actually talk to them. That Troll in the corner made me mad though lol.

1 for today.

Well i guess in the various beta's it was on again and off again, now they have confirmed it as gone again forever.

More importantly than funding new toons, it means we wont be able to chat to set up pvp or raids.

Didn't they announce that ages ago?

Apparently stupid talk is part of PvP.

When I create an alt with the other faction i won't be able to fund my new toon with money from my main. That's annoying for a game where they want you to play both sides (why else would they create two unique sets of quests).

No email no chat.

Balance in Diversity
Power in Diversity
Strength in Diversity
Or Wisdom in Diversity
All tie in well, it can show we are the same fleet/ect but give us our own tagline

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I'm more curious about how we can tie the Motto into our 'blurb' and why would a group of Jedi and Sith decide to unite?

Their not allied. They are adversary guilds according to the guilds info on the swtor guilds page. I don't really know what that means though. The only time the two guilds will be playing together is fighting each other in PVP.

I don't think it's necessary to mention any explanation as to why there are two opposed guilds. Most people will have toons on both sides, because the quests are 100% different.

I think a separate motto for Knights and Lords of Stonewall is a great idea. As has already been said, Star Wars and Star Trek have very different ideas and cultures. Strength in Diversity resonates well with Star Trek, but not so much with Star Wars. I'd think that the Jedi surprising the Sith and the Sith suppressing the Jedi for thousands of years at a time would hardly be considered a diversity friendly environment.

I'm more curious about how we can tie the Motto into our 'blurb' and why would a group of Jedi and Sith decide to unite?

For Knights: From Diversity comes Strength and Balance.
For Lords: From Diversity comes Strength and Power.

A combined: Diversity brings Balance and Power.

What's your gamer tag? I'll add you as a friend.

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What should the moto be for Knights of Stonewall? Should we stick with Strength in Diversity or go with something different for the new guild?

Sounds good to me. Don't see why we should use a different moto for SWTOR.

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I liked Strength in Diversity, but maybe for star wars something like "The Force of Diversity" so its like the same but Has star wars as the theme

I like this one too. Sounds more Star Wars.

yeah I started playing it for a bit today and was completely ignoring the chat channel, I was debating whether to just get the season pass, but I want to play some more to see if I'm actually going to be playing this for awhile.

Ahh ok that makes much more sense and I can see why people would be concerned then.

Well, AoE Online launched today and I've been playing it a bit. It's a pretty interesting game, a lot like the others.

You have a Capital City, somewhat like the Home City in Age of Empires III, where you upgrade your troops, units and buildings with gear of different rarity (Common, Uncommon, Rare, and Very Rare). Every building and unit you want to use needs to be unlocked in your Capital City before using them in the the 'quests' which makes leveling slow business.

Sadly, villagers require resource drop off points again. I loved the Atlantians in Age of Mythology for not needing resource huts and I took for granted not having them in AoE III. Priests can convert troops to their side again though!

Quests are how you level up your Capital City in the game, earning you Tech points, to unlock new building and units. You also earn Empire Points, a currency to buy unique items, all of which require a premium account to use. Each quest is a different mission where you have to complete certain objectives to finish it and earn the rewards, kinda different from previous AoE games. Some are timed, but I've had no trouble completing them.

It's a F2P game through and through. Noobs are every where. They already have an in-game store backed full of stuff that totals to over 125 dollars. Premiums users get extreme boosts in combat and everything else, sadly.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.

The idea is for the to be a defacto 'gay server' like Proudmore in WoW which most, but not all, glbt guilds are on. My understanding is that it helps create a better sense of community on that server and, I can imagine, makes planning for Pride Festivities much easier and more inclusive.

This wouldn't be a binding or required; just our community trying to establish a home inside the game.

Many guilds for TOR are gearing up for Phase 2 of the guild deployment which is Alignment. Each guild gets to pick Allies and Adversaries. An ally is a guild of the same faction as your guild and an adversary is a guild of the opposite faction of your guild, that you've made some arrangement with.

The idea is that who ever you have set as your ally/adversary will be put onto the same server. For instance, when I get around to creating the Lords of Stonewall guild, I can set them as Adversaries to Knights of Stonewall so that both guilds will be on the same sever, just opposing factions.

The current thinking is that only the first ally and adversary on your list will actually get put on the same server as you, so a lot of the planning the glbt guilds have already been doing won't work as they were hoping. Blooddoll is hoping to get Bioware's help in this matter so that later on glbt guilds won't have to hop servers to all be in one place.

Episode 354 - Deep Space Nine - "Family Business" - 05/15/1995

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=3323

Quark returns to his home planet to confront his mother after hearing from the Ferengi Commerce Authority that she broke the law by earning profit.

Enjoy!

My friends and I made our own guild, before I even know about yall ;), I would not want to be forced to be on a particular server simply because we let in "the gays." I mean God only knows what name for the server they picked, and I like a lot of people rp a bit in name choices. Of course if they have two servers at launch this makes the point moot. ;)