I have quite decided what Im going to do,not because I have experienced rudeness from anyone, but simply because I don't see any chat at the times I play unless I join vent which as me and another stated, takes away from the ambiance, story, music, etc when you can't hear anything lol. I put an alt in a different smaller gay guild at the same time and the chat box was quite lively so for me it just may be the people who like to socialize by typing at the times that I play just arn't much there. This is my first really big guild (except for Old Timers guild for a couple of weeks on AOC ages ago) and it may be that I am just better suited for a somewhat smaller guild where its easier to get to know people. I don't want to leave the impression that this is anyones fault or that there is anything wrong with the guild, it may just be that little something Im not seeing that a smaller guild may fill.If I was a vent person in a game where story doesn't matter much (like I was in WOW), this would all be a non issue. Anyway, thanks everyone for all your feedback. The ones who posted in this thread are all awesome people and whatever I do I hope to see you in game :-)