Re: Back up server discussion
This makes me very nervous, since I likely won't be able to log in on first head start day. Why would we pick a server that has a real chance of leaving members high and dry (Crystal Desert humor)?
deegeezee
Deyadissa
Re: Back up server discussion
In regards to Full servers, I think it is only applicable at the exact moment you log in. If the server name on the list reads Full, you can't transfer or create a new account.
However, if you access the server list at a different time, and the server is not Full (it's High, Medium, Low etc.), I think you can go ahead and transfer or create your account there.
Don't quote me on that, but I think that's how it works.
If that's the case, then it just a matter of picking a quiet time to try and get on CD.
Problem is though, the sever population is not factored by the amount of people logged in... but rather how many total players are on it. I believe it works that way because of overflow servers, since they can always move the extra people in another server.
I logged on a few times in the stress tests and noticed that crystal desert was always full no matter what time it was, even when 2 stress tests ago it started 15 minutes earlier than its schedule time.
This is why I highly suggest we pick another server, but I may be taking it out of proportion. I'm just worried about the members that may be left behind if this is the case.
I tried to explain to Guildwars 2 guru here and someone chimed in:
Ugh. What I am reading here?
This whole argument seems pointless as it's nitpicking over meaningless details.
Listen, you don't have to agree with Deyadissa on all her/his points but she/he knows what she/he is talking about. I am a member of the GW2 RP community and in order to make RP work without an RP tag it requires a lot of community building. This has required a lot of monitoring as we try to get other RPers to gather on the same server. We have monitored the server population over the BWE's because for our community we must. I understand if it is not a problem for you but for others it is a very serious problem.
As it is now, I can back up Deyadissa when she/he says that once a server hits full no one can roll there. Our members have had trouble getting onto the server we wanted to use over the various BWE's and have spent nearly entire weekends not being able to get on the server we picked. The size will change because the developers -have- been tweaking with server capacity. And people still can server transfer during this time.
But, yes, it is a problem in this sense.
Basically, it can be a huge problem but servers can always be increased.
deegeezee
Re: Home server confirmed: Crystal Desert
I think that's a good idea. If we're going to be on a crowded server, we should at least have some weight to throw around.
Siafu
GW2 - UI
Did anyone discover during beta or stress-test if there was a way to make additional windows and channel specific chat to them and then move them to another location?
I got tells/whispers whatever you want to call it and missed all of them because of misc everything that kept my main window looking like a vegas-slot-machine on crack.
I tried but could not find out how to do it :(
I got tells/whispers whatever you want to call it and missed all of them because of misc everything that kept my main window looking like a vegas-slot-machine on crack.
I tried but could not find out how to do it :(
Deyadissa
Re: Back up server discussion
They should really rework on what full servers do. I'm not sure if they are based on the total population on the server or the ones currently logged in. Because as soon as the beta starts, it already shows the server full... but there was no que for any of the zones to overflow.
I'm going to guess and say it counts the total active population towards a player cap, doesn't matter which time of day it is... it will always stay full.
You can't transfer to a full server, and you cannot make it your home world either.
THe free transfers they will be giving will be off Crystal Desert, not into it. So if people join the guild thats not in the home server, they can never do WvWvW with most of the guild.
It's nice not to have queues, but its a bit ridiculous when guilds have to split servers or even leave one because the server is full... i'd rather wait in line to log in honestly.
I'm going to guess and say it counts the total active population towards a player cap, doesn't matter which time of day it is... it will always stay full.
You can't transfer to a full server, and you cannot make it your home world either.
THe free transfers they will be giving will be off Crystal Desert, not into it. So if people join the guild thats not in the home server, they can never do WvWvW with most of the guild.
It's nice not to have queues, but its a bit ridiculous when guilds have to split servers or even leave one because the server is full... i'd rather wait in line to log in honestly.
stitch
Re: Back up server discussion
With the free sever transfers for a period of time after launch, hopefully this will be a non-issue, as people will be moving and spots will be frequently opening on busy servers.
Was this confirmed or is it a rumor?
It was confirmed! http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/07/20/guild-wars-2-chat-with-game-designer-mike-zadorojny/
First of all, players will be able to move servers at will for a while after release so that they can play with their friends. Since the game is launching with the ability to switch servers, it should come as no surprise that, in the event that ANet needs to open new servers, players will immediately be able to transfer servers (for free if you're coming from select crowded realms). People also have the option to "guest" on servers, allowing them to play with friends from other servers (unless you want to enter WvWvW with them, in which case, you will need to switch servers). That still doesn't fix the "Oops! I created on the wrong server and have to pay for a transfer" situation, so Mike said that ArenaNet will have a warning up after release so that new players will understand what might lock them into a server. However, people playing the beta test will notice that the warning has already been implemented!
Deyadissa
Re: Back up server discussion
With the free sever transfers for a period of time after launch, hopefully this will be a non-issue, as people will be moving and spots will be frequently opening on busy servers.
Was this confirmed or is it a rumor?
EDIT: NVM
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/49312-switching-servers-at-no-cost-on-release/
stitch
Re: Home server confirmed: Crystal Desert
Hate to bring this up again, but Thrumdi's post reminded me of it, have we decided on an emblem yet:) or the process through which we will select one?
Siafu
Re: Mike Ferguson speaks on Server Lists
Cool, thank you all for answering my questions. I can see now the overall politics and how it matters one way...and the other.
I was never part of something this intricate before...this is in fact big...or at least bigger than I realized...no wonder many of you are posting so much and taking such precautions...all this time I'm thinking...they've had to much coffee and they are all hardwired on caffeine or something! :woohoo: LMAO!
I can also see that in so doing - should this all work...that no one needs to become an activist...with a bit of luck and just the right amount of LGBT safe-haven presence...then the server should theoretically operate pretty much hands-free. It's the influence that will take care of most issues.
Very nice!
If there's anything I can do to advance the cause to a favorable outcome just let me know.
/salute
I was never part of something this intricate before...this is in fact big...or at least bigger than I realized...no wonder many of you are posting so much and taking such precautions...all this time I'm thinking...they've had to much coffee and they are all hardwired on caffeine or something! :woohoo: LMAO!
I can also see that in so doing - should this all work...that no one needs to become an activist...with a bit of luck and just the right amount of LGBT safe-haven presence...then the server should theoretically operate pretty much hands-free. It's the influence that will take care of most issues.
Very nice!
If there's anything I can do to advance the cause to a favorable outcome just let me know.
/salute
Daidalus
Re: Home server confirmed: Crystal Desert
Extra points for not picking a server with a suggestive name :lol:
stitch
Re: GW2 Headstart Launch Time maybe 3 hours earlier!
OMG how can you do that? I'm going to be so hyped I'm sure I'll still be up come morning.. I know crazy over a game.. but I just love a fresh release of an MMO, always so much awe and wonder around as folks find thier footing.. its like xmas morning to me and it lasts just about as long, so I enjoy every moment of it..
I'll be right there with ya!
MMOWarrior
Re: Back up server discussion
I just think this causes so much confusion.. just look at this thread.. already a lot of confusion just talking about it... just seems to me like we are inventing problems.. but whatever..
MMOWarrior
Re: GW2 Headstart Launch Time maybe 3 hours earlier!
11:00pm would be much much nicer than 2:00am. Otherwise, I'll just be waiting up to reserve a few names, and then not playing til I wake up on Saturday.
OMG how can you do that? I'm going to be so hyped I'm sure I'll still be up come morning.. I know crazy over a game.. but I just love a fresh release of an MMO, always so much awe and wonder around as folks find thier footing.. its like xmas morning to me and it lasts just about as long, so I enjoy every moment of it..
bluegamers
Re: Hall of Monuments Necessary?
The Hall of Monuments is for topics about guild wars 2 in general, the Tavern is for guild discussions and so on. It seems that way because I think there could be some confusion about the nature of the sections perhaps.
MMOWarrior
Re: Mike Ferguson speaks on Server Lists
As far as putting the GLBT stamp on the server.. I think what people are trying to say is that we want the word to get out that our community will be there, before the server becomes known as something like the PvP server.. In the end we or anyone else doesn't have any control over who goes where. It is just hoped that by being known as the GLBT server we'll end up attracting more GLBT to the server over time, as well as those with an open mind.. and persuading the more intolerant to look elsewhere.. but again, we really have no control.. we're just hanging our shingle..
bluegamers
Re: Home server confirmed: Crystal Desert
To all new and future members of the Stonewall Vanguard, Welcome. I look forward to seeing and playing with you all (at some point) in game.
For those not up on the lore, the Crystal Desert is located in the south of Tyria, originally part of the Crystal Sea, before the fall of the god, Abaddon. The Crystal Desert connects Elona to the south and had at one point been ruled by the Primeval Kings.
For those not up on the lore, the Crystal Desert is located in the south of Tyria, originally part of the Crystal Sea, before the fall of the god, Abaddon. The Crystal Desert connects Elona to the south and had at one point been ruled by the Primeval Kings.
nniicc
Re: Mike Ferguson speaks on Server Lists
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1. Why unofficial as opposed to official?
Official would be if Arenanet assigned a server to be for instance a role play server. Unofficial because we are not Arenanet.
Cubby
Re: GW2 Headstart Launch Time maybe 3 hours earlier!
so.. maybe im that silly person who always gets confused about the times for when a game starts and happens to always be late.. I live in Kentucky, so what time would this be for me?
OMG ME TOO!!!! Bardstown here, just southeast of Louisville.
Siafu
Re: Mike Ferguson speaks on Server Lists
One thing to think about is to publicly declare CD the unofficial LGBT server as soon as possible as widely as possible (on Guru, GW2Guilds etc.). This way we could stake our claim to it, and possibly prevent other big alliances or interests stamping their identity on it.
EDIT: I have a Guru account, so I'm happy to post it there, and shepherd the thread through inevitable cascade of ignorance. :P
Thrumdi, I meant to ask you some posts back about this (or for anyone who wants to answer.) I'm so in left field when it comes to these politics. I've never seen or experienced what is happening now....especially the "why." I only ask so I know and I don't feel ignorant about such things.
1. Why unofficial as opposed to official?
1a. What does choosing (either or) mean for us in political terms?
2. Additionally, (if I read this correctly we are going to try and put "our stamp" on the server before some other guild gets there first) what are the political advantages or disadvantages for this as well?
2a. Are we politically trying to be in the lead or at the top of something?
Thanks much :)
nniicc
Re: Back up server discussion
I never really ran into this in beta, so I'm not sure, but do they basically lock a server after too many people join or something?
Yes, when the server is 'full', no new player can make that server their home. I assume you can still create new characters, not sure dough. This is to avoid having to many people in one place or to many people shoved off to the overload servers.
a "back up" server so that members who struggle to get onto Crystal Desert can all play on the same server instead of being scattered across multiple worlds.
I'd say we pick whatever the other gay guilds pick. So i didn't vote.
What is the contingency plan when on day two or three Crystal Desert is full? I assume we will all get one free server move the first few days, or at least a free move to a less populated server. Do we wait hoping that the server will be unlocked when people level up?