Kidd Kasper

kiddkasper

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
Quote by Captdry
push comes to shove I have a large Hobbit hole on LOTR online everyone can crash at, ya know... should the need arise ;)


Much appreciated but I can't get the Pando Media Craptastic to work correctly.
Brandon Felczer

CapnBranFlakes

Re: Star Trek: The Journey

May 19 2011
:tng:


Episode 276 - The Next Generation - "Eye of the Beholder" - 2/28/1994

www.allstepisodes.com/googlevideodatabase.php?n=2718

Deanna investigates the suicide of a crewman and uncovers a murder that took place during construction of the Enterprise.


Enjoy!
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Phil

Captdry

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
push comes to shove I have a large Hobbit hole on LOTR online everyone can crash at, ya know... should the need arise ;)
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Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
Basically, yes, but I can't imagine someone wouldn't buy Cryptic.
Phil

Captdry

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
So basically Cryptic would have to buy Atari out or be bought by someone else otherwise they would go bust?

Meh I'm sure it'll sort itself out, if not well its not the end of the world.

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
Cryptic was it's own company, but back in 2008 (I think) Atari was trying to get more into the MMO market and bought Cryptic. Now Atari is looking to sell them again, possibly turning a profit from when they originally bought them.
Phil

Captdry

Re: "The Spirits of Ramok Nor" by @alimac30

May 19 2011
I just read this and wanna play it but realised the server comes down in 20 mins so will try it another time.
Phil

Captdry

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
Forgive my ignorance of the gaming industry but what happens if no one picks up Cryptic? Can they carry on as a lone venture?

Was Cryptic a division within Atari?

My head hurts :-(
Christopher

Commander88

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
This has happened to a game I currently play, City of Heroes/Villians, before. Another studio picked up the game, but "Cryptic" still has its logo on the game to some degree. Couldn't tell you what income they derive from that, if any.

I think what will happen to STO will depend on who Cryptic gets sold to, when, and what the terms are.
I do think it a bit odd that Jack & Zinc get announced as returning, then shortly thereafter Cryptic gets sold.

Also what is odd is that this supposedly happened about 45 days ago, and it's just now getting reported? Usually divestures get a bit more...buzz than this, esp. for an IP like Star Trek (and IIRC, Cryptic or Atari also owns the whole of the Champs IP, including the paper 'n dice game, as well as the MMO.)

Of course, there could be some financial maneuvering we're not aware of, but if you really think about it, if a company runs STO properly, it could be a real cash cow.
But, someone thought that about SWG, and look how that turned out...then you have WoW.

Should be interesting. Looks like someone's going to have to take all the Atari logos out of CO as well. :blink:
Eric

chemkarate

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
Hm, that sucks, but more for the people at Cryptic. I'm not too worried about the game for the time being. Additionally, I'm pretty sure that my lifetime sub has actually broken even by now, so I'm not worried about having lost money either. :P

The one company I really, really do not want buying Cryptic is Activision-Blizzard, and that's mostly because of the Activision section. They way they run products into the ground and treat their employees is downright shameful. If Bobby Kotick gets his hands on Cryptic, that is when I will pour a 40 on the curb, as STO's demise will be all but certain.
Denis

SBOSlayer

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
Very interesting stuff :D Thanx for the info :) I really hope the uni course I take next includes a lot of this stuff. My masters and honours only really included payments and rates over time so it's kinda interesting to here how this stuff would work between Cryptic and Atari :)
Jonathan

Ranir

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 19 2011
I agree. I think this would be a great company to be picked up by someone bigger. There is a few catches. #1 Whoever picks up Cryptic will have to deal with the fact that they have almost no content control over the game. Altho most companies do let the Devs deal with it all, a few like to make suggestions, hey I want this and this in here. Where since there is a vary tenious liscencing agreement for the Star Trek liscence, they are really limited. So basically with STO they are purchasing it, although they can change the pay model, etc, content they can't. Unlike CO which Cryptic has full liscensing capabilities from the owner of Champions and can do with it like they please.

As far as financial concerns, Cryptic doesn't have anything to worry about from Atari. Atari is divesting and based up French Trade Laws(it's a french company fyi) this will allow them to knock Cryptic's costs off of their financial summary's, basically as if they had never owned Cryptic in the first place. But since Cryptic is US based, the international contract between Cryptic and Atari, per basic Internation Trade summaries, Atari has to report an annual LIB, (loss, income, budget) report. Stating how much they made, lost and of course budgetted to any of their subsidieries. So until they drop Cryptic, Atari says they will hold it till a new buyer is found, they have to continue to pay Cryptic their budget.

Cryptic will be worth alot. We just have to sit and wait out the fire. :)
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Seannewboy

Seannewboy

Re: Star Trekian Birthday's-Master List

May 19 2011
4 for today, including my favorite Romulan.
Denis

SBOSlayer

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 18 2011
"Cryptic could be an attractive purchase for a player that wants to get into the MMO space, and Champions Online and Star Trek Online do represent two good properties that still have much potential. An analyst we spoke with claims that the sale of Cryptic could finally lead to the kind of breakout that has been elusive for these two MMO offerings. “With a different marketing approach, things could be much different with Cryptic, as I still see much potential in what they are doing,” said one analyst we spoke with."

I have been reading quite a bit about this, quite a few business analysts are saying Cryptic could be worth quite a few bucks.

I really hope Atari haven't financially screwed Cryptic. If you think about it any and all profits going to Atari may not have been returned to Cryptic yet, which could threaten them. Then again, we don't have that information so maybe they also got a sweet continuing operations deal.
Denis

SBOSlayer

Re: Fleet Data Sample Gathering Party this Thursday!!!

May 18 2011
I'll try and be there :)
Joshua (Zepari)

Zepari

Re: Fleet Data Sample Gathering Party this Thursday!!!

May 18 2011
DJ Zepari in da house! (I'm sorry, I felt ridiculous typing that. I could feel my IQ dropping. I'll be in my house, but everyone elses Vent window, if music is requested.)
Brandon Felczer

CapnBranFlakes

Re: Star Trek: The Journey

May 18 2011
:tng:


Episode 275 - The Next Generation - "Masks" - 2/21/1994

www.allstepisodes.com/googlevideodatabase.php?n=2717

The Enterprise finds an ancient library that recreates its civilization by taking possession of Data and transforming the ship.


Enjoy!
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Tanya

tstanyaspain

Re: Fleet Data Sample Gathering Party this Thursday!!!

May 18 2011
Awesome good job!!! :)
Brandon Felczer

CapnBranFlakes

Fleet Data Sample Gathering Party this Thursday!!!

May 18 2011
Hello fleet!

This Thursday, May 19th, our amazing Crafting Corp is going to be holding a Data Sample Gathering Party. Hosted by group member tstanyaspain, please join us as we aim to collect as many samples as possible so we can get the Stonewall Store back open as soon as possible.

As a heads up, we are in the most need to Vertion, Chronometric and Antithroron rare particle traces.

We will be holding two time slots to accommodate our European and US fleeties:

UK Time Slot: 7pm BST (11am PDT/ 2pm EDT)

US Time Slot: 8pm EDT (5pm PDT/ 1am BST [5/20])

We hope you can join us for the party! We will all be in Vent so we can share jokes, riddles, and if Zepari is around, get some music in there!

LET'S GET READY TO PAAAAARRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTYYYYY!
Kidd Kasper

kiddkasper

Re: Atari Drops Cryptic

May 18 2011
Quote by Furlong
Can you imagine what they could do to STO if they had the resources and talents of a company like Blizzard behind them?


Dear gods, I hope it's not Blizzard.