Fiddle sticks, no invite. :(

Off to play Rift I guess. (which is way better then cleaning the dang house or mowing the lawn) :)

Well phoey this is a sad thing to read right after breakfast. I was hoping for a "buddy" to fly around the galaxy with but it seems I'll just have continue to fly solo. :(

It really does suck and I struggle to understand why they wouldn't include it when they do in their other games. Seems a strange decision to make.

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It's a shame but we'll get over it :) If anyone wants to romance my in game character go right ahead ;)

I have to go first!! After a few weeks you wouldn't be able to feel my little lightsaber in your wizards sleeve :lol:

What a pile of WA*K!

This is such an unfortunate turn of events and will greatly affect my enjoying of the game that I'm supporting and have bought the CE. I think a harshly worded complaint via their support shall be written.

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I joined this guild because i wanted to play with like minded people. I live in Europe. There are no European GLBT guilds so i joined up with this US one. Based on what was said in the above mentioned thread, playing on a US server is scaring me. Most people here in Europe are homophobic too, but they try to hide it.

We're not a US guild; we're an international guild. We'll have an EU section in-game, as well. I'm also trying to help us work to create a 'gay server' that hopefully would be more accepting and have a more world-wide user-base.

In principle Nick, I agree that we're an international guild, but after being in the fleet for quite a long while I think the practicality is very different at my own play times.

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We're not a US guild; we're an international guild. We'll have an EU section in-game, as well. I'm also trying to help us work to create a 'gay server' that hopefully would be more accepting and have a more world-wide user-base.

I agree that a US/EU/rest-the-world mixed server would be wonderful.

Off-topic: This makes me wonder how many non-US players are in this guild. Tried to look it up on http://www.swtor.com/guilds/7466/knights-stonewall/roster but for most people there is no location info.

This is extremely unfortunate. I was actually looking forward to this. I thought it'd be very unique, most MMOs don't have romance arcs, let alone same sex romance. Sad to see we will be excluded from this feature.

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I joined this guild because i wanted to play with like minded people. I live in Europe. There are no European GLBT guilds so i joined up with this US one. Based on what was said in the above mentioned thread, playing on a US server is scaring me. Most people here in Europe are homophobic too, but they try to hide it.

We're not a US guild; we're an international guild. We'll have an EU section in-game, as well. I'm also trying to help us work to create a 'gay server' that hopefully would be more accepting and have a more world-wide user-base.

Why do straight guys always get all the fun?

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Perhaps if there's enough backlash they'll reconsider at some point down the line, but given the way he said it, I doubt it.

I don't think they can add gay romance arcs later on, they would need to re-hire the voice actors.

The only backlash i noticed on the forum yesterday where a lot of homophobes. This thread http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=438741&highlight=same-sex scared the hell out of me, it's now been cleaned up, but the post left are still scaring me.

I joined this guild because i wanted to play with like minded people. I live in Europe. There are no European GLBT guilds so i joined up with this US one. Based on what was said in the above mentioned thread, playing on a US server is scaring me. Most people here in Europe are homophobic too, but they try to hide it.

Episode 357 - Deep Space Nine - "The Advesary" - 06/19/1995

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=3326

A Changeling sabotages the USS Defiant as it attempts to start a war in the Alpha Quadrant, making it easy for the Dominion to invade.

Enjoy!

Pre-ordered the CE from GameStop. Was disappointed over the SGRA thing but decided it wasn't a game-breaker for me. Being part of Knights of Stonewell will definitely help. :)

Hehe, I do the same thing. Still no invite. :(

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I've pre-ordered! Woohoo! I also submitted my guild app on SWTOR website whatever that means. :)

I wonder if it has anything to do with the business relationship with LucasArts that has tipped the scales in this direction. Mind you this is purely me thinking out loud.

BioWare has proven they aren't afraid to be inclusive with their games. Both Dragon Age games have had same sex romance options, and according to Casey Hudson (Executive Producer), they are even adding same-sex romance options (finally!) in Mass Effect 3.

I'm pretty disappointed. This was an opportunity for Bioware to show they'd come around on the issue since the days of their (since recanted) "There are no gays in Star Wars" spiel on the forums.
I guess I should have taken that as a promise instead.

It's particularly disappointing given that, per the recent presentation on the Sith Warrior given at Gamescom, male characters, at least, have [flirt] lines with random female NPCs. So I guess there's plenty of the sexy power fantasy bit going on - it's just a matter of who gets to partake of it.

Right now I'm holding out for the possibility of there being some sort of explanation forthcoming, but I'm eyeing the cancellation button as well. I can always use the money on another game. ...More like five games, actually.

I'd figured this was the case from the moment I heard there'd be romance arcs in the game, but I'm still really disappointed. Perhaps if there's enough backlash they'll reconsider at some point down the line, but given the way he said it, I doubt it.

This is truly sad and unfortunate. It becomes a very heteronormative affair, whether it means to or not. And whether intended or not, it comes across, to me, as saying that this MMO is only available to heterosexual folks. When we throw sexuality into a game, especially with options, we are making a statement about what the world/mmo is saying to some degree. So it comes off poorly for me, as a person that was really looking forward to making a character that I wanted, like a dude rogue that could flirt his way around the galaxy, alien, male, and female alike. It hampers my enjoyment to a margin and all the above just makes me have difficulty overlooking.

Enough that, unfortunately, I'll be canceling my preorder.

Hmm. This is a classic example of "it's not what he said, but how he said it". To me that answer was so definitive like they talked about it and decided they weren't going to re-explore the option later.

But honestly I can't say I'm surprised. Star Wars always gave off this stigma to me like Star Wars is for the men, Star Trek is for the boys.

Interview with Cory Butler. Question is asked at 2:49


Needless to say, the SGRA thread on the SWTOR website is on fire.

Will I cancel my CE pre-order? Right now I just don't know.

The replies posted are wrote very well so ill just post to echo them.

I'm sorry you've had some bad experiences so far. In my time here they have been very few and far between. Most of the time I leave vent feeling happier than when I joined. We have some amazing Fleeties and im happy you've met some :)

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