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Hello Knights and Lords of Stonewall,

By now I hope you've had an opportunity to view the latest issue of the Stonewall Times where we have started our Old Republic coverage.

Over the next couple of months we will be covering the remaining 6 classes. I believe the readers (currently over a 1000 on the distribution list) would really love to see the remaining classes written about with as much passion and care as was put into the Trooper and Agent articles in Volume 7.

If you are really looking forward to playing the Smuggler, Jedi Knight, Sith Inquisitor, Sith Warrior, or the Bounty Hunter and have any interest in sharing your passion with your fellow guildmates, we would love to have you write the article introducing these classes.

If you are hesitant due to inexperience, or unsure on how to start putting together an article, I will be happy to help guide you through the process. The technical aspects are the easy part, it's channeling the passion and care you have for these classes that is the hard part.

The articles that still need writers, and their due dates are below:

Bounty Hunter - November 24th
Jedi Knight - November/December 24th
Sith Warrior - November/December 24th

Please contact me via private message if you want more information or wish to express interest.

-Mike
Knights of Stonewall, Senior Editor

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Loving it, although im afraid i have to authorize a visit from the Imperial Problem Solvers on MikeyNY for releasing classified information.

The public has a right to know about such classified information... Now for my own protection I will not be accepting any packages, all mail will be routed to other people to be reviewed before being passed on to myself. Also I'm being moved to an undisclosed location for an indeterminate amount of time, so that I can continue to bring all people the knowledge they need to know!

:-)

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Quick question for you that have been playing STO for sometime now. I registered on their website and was thinking about trying the game. Do you think it would be worth trying out with SW:TOR being right around the corner? I would probably only be playing STO for a month or two until release of SW:TOR.

Also if I do is there a server everyone is on? (I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't find it)

My opinion is biased since the only mmo I have any interest in ever playing is STO. I had previously tried WoW and Perfect World and they just never drew me in, then again they weren't based on Star Trek.

I say play STO, keep in mind it's in the midst of a bit of a remodel currently. You never know, you just might want to stay.

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It's all one giant server. If you have a friend or fleet member in a zone before you arrive, you will typically load into their instance when you arrive.

Ah very cool! Thanks hon

You're welcome. :)

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If I get a stipend of C-Store points I am happy to see STO go F2P. Should bring in so many more casual Trek fans.

Meee too.

I love that word...

Stipend...

I really really want a stipend. ^.^

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In spite of all this, the very fact that the Mods keep recreating the SGRA Voting thread every time it reaches a certain size tells me they aren't "discriminating". In fact they keep encouraging the discussion, even as they remain tight lipped on their reasons why.

I wouldn't look on this with any optimism. One of the largest and longest ongoing discussions was the space combat poll. The poll title was "Are you happy with space combat" with a Yes, No and Undecided option. The post then explains, somewhere inside of it, that it the real meaning is "Are you happy with the version of space combat we have implemented." however, the masses who click the link and see "Are you happy with space combat" open the poll and simply click "yes" thinking they are voting to have space combat or are they happy space combat is in the game, not the true intention of the post, skewing the results.

That thread has been closed and reopened dozens of times due to the large amount of people unhappy with the single player starfox minigame, but neither the mods or the devs have any intention of taking any of the suggestions or desires in the thread to heart and implementing them into the game. It is simply closed and reopened because of space issues and it is a handy place to keep all of the trash they don't want to see.

So, that said, having them constantly close and reopen the same gender romance poll thread is not promising in any way. It has essentially become "File 13" or "The round filing cabinet" or "the rubbish bin" where they can be sure people will go and chat up a storm without having to deal with it anywhere else.

At least that's how I feel about it based on their track record.

If I get a stipend of C-Store points I am happy to see STO go F2P. Should bring in so many more casual Trek fans.

Open up your chat options and look at channels. put in SFROLEPLAY and click join.

or on the chat line, type /channel_join SFRoleplay

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It's all one giant server. If you have a friend or fleet member in a zone before you arrive, you will typically load into their instance when you arrive.

Ah very cool! Thanks hon

Made this last night. It was pretty good, but need to thicken up the gravy more next time. I follow this recipe blog. She puts thme out every so often.

http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/05/swedish-meatballs.html

Swedish Meatballs
Gina's Weight Watcher Recipes
Servings: 4 • Serving Size: 5 meatballs • Old Points: 4 pt • Points+: 5 pt
Calories: 213.5 • Fat: 10 g • Protein: 25.1 g • Carb: 8.5 g • Fiber: 1 g • Sugar: 2 g
Sodium without adding salt: 346 mg


1 tsp olive oil
1 small onion, minced
1 clove garlic, minced
1 celery stalk, minced
1/4 cup minced parsley
1 lb 93% lean beef
1 egg
1/4 cup breadcrumbs
salt and pepper to taste
1/2 tsp allspice
2 cups reduced sodium beef stock
2 oz light cream cheese

In a large deep saute pan, heat oil on medium heat, add onions and garlic; sauté until onions are translucent, about 4-5 minutes. Add celery and parsley and cook until soft, about 3-4 more minutes. Let cool a few minutes.
In a large bowl combine beef, egg, onion mixture, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper and allspice. Mix well and form meatballs with your hands 1/8 cup each (fill 1/4 cup then divide the meat in half).

Add beef stock to the pan and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to medium-low and slowly drop meatballs into the broth. Cover and cook about 20 minutes. Remove the meatballs with a slotted spoon and set aside in a serving dish. Strain the stock, add to blender with cream cheese and pulse until smooth. Return to pan and simmer a few minutes to thicken, then pour over meatballs. Garnish with parsley and serve over noodles or with toothpicks if you want to set these out as an appetizer.

This makes 22 meatballs, nutritional info is based on 5 meatballs with gravy.

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In media there's a lot of straight romance and rarely gay romance. A lot of the gay romance in media is either gay male stereotypes or sexy lesbians because straight guys like seeing sexy woman having sex and like looking down on effeminated guys.

I see this changing, at least when it comes to the U.S. market, and depending on what audience the show is targetted at. The younger the demographic (but over the age of "innocence") the more likely you are to see non-stereotypical gay characters.

Yes, I'll admit to having watched it, but I loved how Greek gave us a variety of gay characters (from, he's gay?! to HOLY CRAP did he just "flame on"?) and both positive and negative gay couplings.

Glee has been treating the subject pretty well. I was initially turned off that the gay kid was so obviously gay, but with the addition of closeted Korofski and now Blaine, there's a bit more variety now.

I've been flabbergasted by Torchwood on Starz. I was afraid the Americanization of Torchwood would essentially castrate Jack (and initially it seemed to) but holy crap, we've seen more male on male nudity than I think I've ever seen on the non-internet connected screen. ;-)

It's the same generational break I see in my own personal life. People of the younger generations (say younger Gen-Xers and below) could care less, while Gen Xers tend to be ambivalent, and the older generations tend to be anti-homosexuality.

Bringing it back to BioWare though... They could shut down the discussion altogether if they choose. One of their writers posted a poignant article about the tyranny of the majority and the perception that including SGRAs in Dragon Age 2 was seen as giving the gay community something extra instead of it just being an equal option in gaming. In all of this I've learned that LucasArts has donated money to pro-gay marriage organizations. This is why the current "contractual" restriction regarding their server provider seems a logical possibility. Such a situation, being a legal document, and something that needs to be treated carefully, could easily explain the silence.

Simple fact is. We don't know. I just personally believe that jumping to the worst possible conclusion until we actually know something does neither us, nor them, any good. An extreme scenario, but if BioWare announced tomorrow that contractual obligations had prevented them from including SGRAs, however, as soon as they can move their server infrastructure internally in 6 months, they will be activating the content since it's actually ready to go, people would have worked themselves into a frenzy against the wrong people and for the wrong reason.

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Also if I do is there a server everyone is on? (I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't find it)

It's all one giant server. If you have a friend or fleet member in a zone before you arrive, you will typically load into their instance when you arrive.

Quick question for you that have been playing STO for sometime now. I registered on their website and was thinking about trying the game. Do you think it would be worth trying out with SW:TOR being right around the corner? I would probably only be playing STO for a month or two until release of SW:TOR.

Also if I do is there a server everyone is on? (I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't find it)

I read your post Z and didn't think it was all that bad. I hope at some point BioWare comes out with a reason. I'm sure there is a good one or at least come up with something believable.

Very cool! Love that it's now including both STO and TOR articles! :)

Loving it, although im afraid i have to authorize a visit from the Imperial Problem Solvers on MikeyNY for releasing classified information.

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Yesterday, for my Massively.com Livestream, Josh@six-of-nine, Valen@Kahless2001, Denis@SBOSlayer,@mrbluegrey and I completed Khitomer Accord in 1 hour 20 minutes.

I uploaded the video so you can see it :)

Gratz fellas!

You know, if it was in higher resolution I would've saved it and sent it to friends to get them interested in STO :P

Yesterday, for my Massively.com Livestream, Josh@six-of-nine, Valen@Kahless2001, Denis@SBOSlayer,@mrbluegrey and I completed Khitomer Accord in 1 hour 20 minutes.

I uploaded the video so you can see it :)



Gratz fellas!

Bioware isn't discriminating us any more than the rest of the world is. Unfortunately most of the world is straight. In media there's a lot of straight romance and rarely gay romance. A lot of the gay romance in media is either gay male stereotypes or sexy lesbians because straight guys like seeing sexy woman having sex and like looking down on effeminated guys.

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I published this today on the SWTOR SGRA website. It got deleted by the mods because it apparently was not on topic and caused alot of argument about semantics. They gave me a warning for hijacking the thread, oh well.

Bioware are insulting us in the way they treat the same-gender romance arc discussions on the forum. Whenever someone opens a new thread on the general forum about SGRA it very quickly gets closed and redirected to the existing thread in the backwater called suggestions. Threads on other subjects only get redirected when there already is another thread on the same subject on the first page of the general forum. As i'm writing this there are new threads on the first page of the general forum about WoW, twitter, beta access, trolls, character creation, last fridays update, open beta and lifetime accounts. All of which have already had numerous threads. Try creating another thread about SGRA and it gets closed and redirected quickly. Zeddikas, you didn't hijack the thread, you got redirected there by zealots.

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In spite of all this, the very fact that the Mods keep recreating the SGRA Voting thread every time it reaches a certain size tells me they aren't "discriminating". In fact they keep encouraging the discussion, even as they remain tight lipped on their reasons why.

They are encouraging us to keep the discussion in one thread on the backwater called suggestions. They don't want SGRA being discussed on the visible general forum. It's their forum, they are allowed to say what we can and can't do, but they are insulting us by not treating this subject in the same way as they do any other subject.