Thanks so much QiqJoe! :woohoo: Everything looks GREAT! This was my next project but you beat me to it and I am most grateful! :cheer:

Could be a lot of fun, only RP'd once in STO but was kind of disorganized. Was not with this fleet of creative people so I bet it'll be much more enjoyable. I'm all in!

Agreed. Never done any RP (outside of Legos and my imagination), but I'd like to give it a try.

This forum is awfully dusty! Does Stonewall do RP events anymore? I would be interested in giving it a try.

I think misogyny vs femmephobia is a useful distinction. I have known plenty of femme men who were awfully misogynist, and some people who are respectful of cis women remain uncomfortable with femme men or gender-queering in general. There's an awful lot of overlap in the Venn diagram, to be sure, but they aren't identical sentiments.

Granted, I don't have any experience with these updates to draw on. I do agree that they're probably not planning a graphical overhaul before launch. (I'm not sure I would want to wait for it in any case!) I was thinking more along the lines of post-launch improvements. That might take the form of full customization with a beefed-up foundry, or a set of optional reskins like those applied to ship interiors. I just find it very unlikely that a single unalterable interior that everybody has to use is a solution that anybody, dev team included, thinks is tenable for any length of time.

As for terminology, obviously I can't speak for every LGBT person, but I personally have never had any problem with "gays" or "queers" as catchall group terms, even though both would be misleading if I used them to refer to myself specifically. Maybe we should see if anyone has personal objections to that term being applied to them?

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Thanks, SiranNataan!

Nova, care to describe what you think is unrealistic or hackneyed? I'm certainly up for specific constructive criticism.

I'll be glad to do so after work. It will be later tonight.

CLicKy.

I don't do the contest thing very often, but this thing is a beast. It'd be so cool to win. And I'm fairly certain that AMD black edition processor would run GW2 in circles even if they don't get around to optimizing the game to run from the graphics card!

Very good writing. There's an endless coolness about Betazoids. How does their telepathy/empathy work? Betazoids also have a public mind space and a separate walled mind space that they keep private from other Betazoids. While some other telepathic species share everything with each other and nothing is private or hidden.

Betazoids are also very emotional. It makes you wonder how a Betazoid would get along with a Vulcan, Vulcan's also being telepathic in a way but also very emotionally suppressed and controlled. So many questions. It's just a really interesting species. But.. /end geekgasm

My bet is that a number of us have Mary Sues (*cough* Ylis *cough*) running around our ships. :)

Thanks, SiranNataan!

Nova, care to describe what you think is unrealistic or hackneyed? I'm certainly up for specific constructive criticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

You are a very talented writer!

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Don't worry! They'll integrate the Foundry soon enough and then our Starbase(s) interiors will be amazing!

Yeah. Like they didn't say the same thing about starship interiors four seasons ago. :whistle: :)

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No drama intended. :) Just trying to understand.

Of course. :) Hope I could explain it a bit.

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Tumerboy just confirmed that the interiors won't change with different tiers. :( Meh, somehow those lazy lower deck levels are really frustrating. Usually I'm not that negative with Cryptic but that somehow crosses a line for me.

Don't worry! They'll integrate the Foundry soon enough and then our Starbase(s) interiors will be amazing!

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I do, others might not. And there is a difference in being part of the "gay community" or being referred to as "gays".

Don't need any drama about it and I'm also not picking a fight here - just pointing out that issues like that have been brought to attention in the last couple of weeks and it might not be the most considerate wording in light of these discussions.

No drama intended. :) Just trying to understand.

Tumerboy just confirmed that the interiors won't change with different tiers. :( Meh, somehow those lazy lower deck levels are really frustrating. Usually I'm not that negative with Cryptic but that somehow crosses a line for me.

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Do you not consider yourself part of the gay community?

I do, others might not. And there is a difference in being part of the "gay community" or being referred to as "gays".

Don't need any drama about it and I'm also not picking a fight here - just pointing out that issues like that have been brought to attention in the last couple of weeks and it might not be the most considerate wording in light of these discussions.

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I'm also not too thrilled about the Stonewall Fleet's name ("Gays in Space"), TBH. Especially with all the discussions about inclusiveness we had going on recently. :dry:

Do you not consider yourself part of the gay community?

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I can't really remember a single update/Tribble test over the past two years were this sentiment was ever true.

It would be cool with me, if these interiors were just for testing purposes. But usually with Tribble it's "what you see is what you get" - especially cosmetic- and design-wise.

There's a slim chance that only the Tier 0 interiors look that amateurish. If that's not the case, I will be fussy - some of the areas are straight copies from some very early missions. People could come up with more sensible and aesthetic designs in the Foundry and I'd expect some more love for detail from the same guys who made some very awesome maps in recent releases (TOS & Belfast interior, revamped parts of DS9, Facility 4029, Utopia Planitia).

I'm just saying: Now might still be enough time to make some noise so the devs will work on custom Starbase interiors. Once this is live, it will stay this way - ship interiors have pretty much proven this.

I'm gonna bet what's on Tribble is what will be on Holodeck at launch. I was a bit disappointed that the only unique map is the Ops level, but I think they were wanting to save the development time for other things. One of the Deves said that the next Foundry push will include more projects that unlock more decorative objects, hopefully, filling up the ops level a bit. They've said we'll be able to create our own maps with the Foundry eventually and I bet that's what they're waiting on to do neat things with the interiors. Hopefully then, they'll put some real development time into creating very Trek assets.

I just wanted to let everyone know that I added KoS and LoS to the SWTOR forum's guild recruitment area. It was nothing fancy, and mostly direct information copied from our website. Let me know what you think. The individual postings were direct copies from the guild list postings, but figured we should have our own threads in the Guild Recruitment areas. I tried to do it in the mindset of simple posting, nothing flashy and "OMG MOAR PPL!," and just letting people know we're on the server and that they'd be more than welcome if they so wish to join. Any suggestions for me improving those postings would be great. And I'd encourage anyone who wanted to put a few thoughts, feelings, etc. about their good times with Stonewall as a nice bump.

Guild list (I put both KoS and LoS in the list):
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=210889&page=4

Knights of Stonewall individual posting:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=490516

Lords of Stonewall individual posting:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=490517

I can't really remember a single update/Tribble test over the past two years were this sentiment was ever true.

It would be cool with me, if these interiors were just for testing purposes. But usually with Tribble it's "what you see is what you get" - especially cosmetic- and design-wise.

There's a slim chance that only the Tier 0 interiors look that amateurish. If that's not the case, I will be fussy - some of the areas are straight copies from some very early missions. People could come up with more sensible and aesthetic designs in the Foundry and I'd expect some more love for detail from the same guys who made some very awesome maps in recent releases (TOS & Belfast interior, revamped parts of DS9, Facility 4029, Utopia Planitia).

I'm just saying: Now might still be enough time to make some noise so the devs will work on custom Starbase interiors. Once this is live, it will stay this way - ship interiors have pretty much proven this.