Well it's downtime. I can do downtime nights two weeks in a row if people are worried about missing it? That might not be a bad idea anyway. I have to help run a week of draggy charity events that will only conclude the afternoon of Sunday the 14th, so not having to invent a plot in the middle of that would be lovely.

Edit: You're welcome to listen in before joining! I encourage people who are on the fence to join the SFRoleplay channel during an event, in fact.

I'd like to observe one time and see how it is then perhaps join in if that would be alright.

This is intentionally pushing the envelope to gin up controversy, thus sales and page views. The black barriers in grocery stores are an intentional outcome that will lead to news coverage.

I, for one, don't really mind. It might start a conversation. It's not going to offend anyone whose opinion I particularly care about.

This coming Sunday is Easter...FYI! :)

Since there didn't seem to be any problems last week, I'm switching us to Sunday for the foreseeable future. Just making sure everyone knows!

I have no opinion of the game, but I thought the commercial was fun! :silly:

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I think it should have "Stonewall" In English, and then "Empire" in Romulan. That way other players who don't speak Romulan, like me, will know the guild!

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I for one love this cover.
My mother saw it and instantly showed me.
She said, "I saw then I instantly saw you on your wedding day!"

She and I haven been listening to The Supreme Court on CSPAN.

I think it is a step forward.
It puts the image right out there into peoples faces, and it's not as though its pornography!
Besides, As Rasilek said regarding a same sex couple with children, those images have been out before.
For example, JCPenny had an image of two women with a child in their store.
Someone complained about it, and their response was to put up a picture of two men and their child.

So all in all, the important thing is that we are moving forward. This Times Magazine Cover, is just another helpful step. At least I think so, ya know?

Thanks for the discussion, guys. :) I'd say it's a pretty bold cover for a mainstream news magazine any way you look at it. Damn stigma.

And, you can't argue the headline as it bears truth.

But for the more conservative folk, this isn't exactly the image i would have in mind to have a discussion, well it is and it isn't. Nonethless, this week these covers are on every major newsstand in the country.

While i get that not everyone wants kids (i have no plans, personally), it still leaves me uneasy and for them to go this route, but hell, it's a dose of reality and it just might work.

I'll keep the faith on this one. After all, the close of the DOMA hearings still left the bill's supporters without really having much to work with to uphold constitutionality, and there are a lot of other people out there on our side.

Best,
Steve.

I'd be up for it but of late everytime I'm in tor I feel excluded regardless how many people are on... I'm not comfortable with vent, I'm sure several others are and it feels like in game chat is so often ignored and chat between members is exclusivly vent... Not really good for inspiring those like myself who aren't vent users to be to helpful.

I'm guessing that there are going to be the black plastic flip dealies in front of the magazines at some newsstands, like the ones they put up when the Cosmo model shows too much skin and suchlike.

I think I get that their intention was to say something like: "If this disgusts you then that's your defect not theirs." But it's definitely not going to be taken that way by those who oppose oppose same sex marriage. It's not what I would have chosen, a picture of a family with same sex parents or even a couple standing at the altar would have been the way I'd have gone.

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Well i intended to get a bit more done on my legacy before i went for this, but with the expansion coming, i want to get mine. Anyone want to help me sometime this weekend or next week?

I'm down, I should be available most of the day tomorrow.

Well i intended to get a bit more done on my legacy before i went for this, but with the expansion coming, i want to get mine. Anyone want to help me sometime this weekend or next week?

Of course I believe that we should have every freedom and right that out heterosexual counterparts have. However, I'm also realistic in the I recognize that we aren't going to get all of them at once. Instead, it will be done piecemeal.

I would also have to say that just like not all heterosexual couples that want to get married want kids, not all homosexual couples that want to get married want kids. My fiancee and I are perfect examples.

Personally, I think the title along with the accompanying photos are appropriate.

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Stonewall Karansu!

Jolan Tru, friends!

Aye to that! B)

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There are plenty of cases in the world today of large corporations keeping the same name no matter what country they have offices, or stores in. I can't recall the exact reasons but summarized I think it comes down to Brand Recognition. I must admit the novelty of having a completly Romulan fleet name would be cool but I do feel it would be better for the future to at least keep the word Stonewall as is in the fleet name. So at why not just go half and half. Something romulan before or after the name Stonewall

Exactly Right. I work for a Japanese Company, in the US. Granted we are a child company to the main corporate company but we have the same brand in our names:
Sony
Sony Pictures Entertainment. (this is who I work for)

The same can be said of Will and Grace. Some called it ground breaking, I called it reinforcing stereotypes. I think what time is going for is the wedding day kiss. Not looking at the article I'm indifferent.

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Anyone else a little pissed? I'm a little pissed. Something a little more on the theme of equality would have been more humbling, like a gay couple with kids?

Regardless of the headline and intentions of the journalists, I see this accomplishing nothing more than warping already warped perceptions.

Thoughts?

Stonewall Karansu!

Jolan Tru, friends!