I must be terribly old-fashioned but I've never used the internet to meet, date or hook up with anyone. Plus I usually pay when taking someone out on a date. I'm 30 now and have been in a committed relationship with my boyfriend for 4 years next month. Before that I could not successfully pursue a guy to save my life but found out that I was much better prey than hunter. I guess maybe I came off a desperate (which I wasn't) when I was the one doing the pursuing.

Any other instances were from bars either in WeHo or more often in Vegas where it's still very possible to meet someone in a bar the old-fashioned way. I did get cruised once in a bookstore and that guy is now one of my dearest friends.

My boyfriend initially pursued me because we'd known each other for about a year and were working together before I was laid-off. I wasn't even sure he was gay (until he sent me some softcore manga comics he liked to read) He was very reticent to pursue things physically having never been with another man before so I had to kinda pick up the slack there and do a little more of the pursuing but I knew by then that he liked me.

My point being; sometimes when you stop looking is when it's going to happen. You're intelligent and sensitive, SiranNataan and if these guys can't see it then it is their loss, not yours.

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Human beings are just so freakin' weird.

Human beings!? Try dating Betazoids! The date is always over in a few minutes because, since you can read each other's minds, you know whether you're wasting your time or are really into one another. ;)

What about innate abilities, such as a ferasan pounce, or lib borg neural blast, or career based innate abilities like tactical team nanite health monitor, etc?

And yet every time I suggest I should resign myself to being a lifelong bachelor, everyone has a snitfit that I can't give up and have to hope and am a great guy etc etc.

Human beings are just so freakin' weird.

Yeah, I'd prefer that as well, but the opportunities are so rare. Most of my friends' gay friends are hooked up. It is exceptionally rare for me to encounter another single gay man through one of my friends.

Oh, I don't go to bars either. I'd rather date a guy I'm friends with first, but so many of my friends tell me that dating a friend feels incestuous. Or I try to meet new guys at parties and events.

I had that problem when I was younger, but as I've gotten older it's rarely happened. Usually one of us will say "hey, it was great hanging out, but I'm not interested in this going any farther". I had assumed it was because, as I had gotten older, I was dating older guys and they were now becoming sufficiently mature to not pull that crap.

You're definitely not alone in this frustration, though. I know other guys who have had similar complaints. I'm not saying online dating is perfect; it's just worked for me better than picking guys up in bars.

My experience of online dating:

Chat with a guy online. Get along well. Ask to meet. Guy never speaks to you again. Have this happen about a hundred times. Finally find a guy who will actually meet. Find the guy really nice and interesting. Guy seems to be enjoying himself. End with both saying you had a good time and would like to meet again. Follow up. Guy never speaks to you again. Go through this entire cycle again ad infinitum ad nauseum.

I don't have time for that garbage, and I'm worth more than that.

Do guys actually use the word "date", like, ever? I've kind of learnt to avoid it, because every time I use it, whether I've seen the guy one time or ten times, as soon as I say it, the guy says, "We're not dating."

And I gave up online dating because I finally got tired of constantly getting treated like crap.

Thanks for posting that link Voleron! This brings me to the rules of the upcoming tournament. In the interests of fairness we are requiring all participants to utilize the same equipment. I know some of you were itching to try out your Tritanium Rending Bat'leth or your lightsaber on or your Shard of the Sword of Khaless but not everyone has these items and this competition is to test your prowess in melee combat rather than who's got the best gear with the highest possible DPS. As the Klingons are both warriors and bards I've decided to put the spirit of these rules into verse:


Proud Warriors of Nagh'reD
Be thou restrained
Thy armor and weapons quality constrained
Till tournament be done and this be known
This contest be won by skill alone.

Rules-
All players shall have a mk IX Bat'leth and mk IX Polyalloy weave Armor, both which can be purchased at:

KDF academy: from Lt B'eora: Bat 1722ec, PA 3960ec
First City: from Lt B'eora: Bat 1722ec, PA 3960ec
Ganalda Station: from Bekk Tok: Bat 1722ec, PA 3960ec
Deep Space 9: from Armorer Zentan: PA 3960ec

-Open hand combat is allowed.

-NO kits, shields, hypos, tribbles or other weapons can be loaded or utilized.
If it becomes apparent one has been used, warrior will be disqualified and dishonored.

Question/begging: If you do a revision of these, can you include a section on The Hive Space and Ground?

Some of those jokes are just wrong. :lol:

My definition of a date is pretty much the same as yours, but with one clarification. I actually find nearly all of my dates online and I don't regard the first time we meet up in real-life to be a date. It's just a casual meet-up to get to know the person and get a feeling for all the things that you can't really gauge on a dating site. If that goes well, the next time we get together (and every time afterward until one of us says we're not interested romantically) is a date.

The idea that the person asking has to pay is ridiculous, outdated, and rooted in gay people trying to assimilate into a nonsensical aspect of heterosexual culture.

Of course, when I am dating someone, there will be special occasions where I say to him "hey, I'd like to treat you to dinner because you're so ridiculously awesome, is that alright?" and on those occasions I expect to pay. However, as I said, those are special occasions and gestures when I want to go out of my way to show the guy I really appreciate and care for him.

I've actually never had anyone expect me to pay for everything when I say "hey, let's go out on a date". Maybe it's a notion that is (thankfully) going out of style in the gay community?

My definition of a date:

Time spent intentionally one-on-one with a single gay or bi man, before such point as that man indicates that he will never have any romantic interest in you.

Others' definition of a date:

????


I haven't the foggiest idea what people mean by this word. Whenever I use the word "date," whether before, during, or after the time spent, I'm told, "This will be/is/was not a date."

I had someone tell me that it's only a date if the person who asked pays for both people, which just seems classist, sexist (it's just mimicking outdated sexist views of hetero dating), absurd, and unfair since I've never been asked out, I've always had to do the asking. I believe when you start out dating someone, you pay for yourself to prove you're not trying to mooch off the guy, and only move on to one person paying for both once you've established trust with each other.

So, anyway, is my definition so far off base that I need to change? Do I need to change some of my values, or reconcile myself to being a lifelong bachelor? Is it silly that I'm even posting these questions?

Will you be participating in this weekend's Bat'leth competition, brave warrior? Did you know that there's more to swinging a bat'leth than mashing buttons 1, 2 and 3 randomly??

Check out the link below for awesome bat'leth attack combos, so that you can practice up in advance, for your best chance at winning great prizes!

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Please note that the manufacturer is unable to accept returns once the blade has spilled blood. Remember to clean and disinfect your blade following each battle. Store in dry conditions to avoid rusting.

Yay, Terradome!

Damm you to hell for showing me this.

Read them! Read them, NAOW! :lol:

What happens when the crew of the USS Enterprise-D, faced with an inoperable holodeck, decides to LARP as the crew of Deep Space 9? Hilarity, of course! This webcomic is ingenious and absolutely hysterical. Everyone in the fleetchat I showed it to kept reading it and couldn't stop.

http://larptrek.com/larptrek/1/

I'll be there! I'll make Das Kapital come as well.