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I have to confess, I did love it when they mentioned 31.

Yo, backyard, can you put that shit behind some spoiler text for the people who haven't seen it? Thanks.

I agree about the whitewashing of the villain. There is no excuse for that.

However, I'd argue that this movie actual had more character development than most Star Trek movies (which have traditionally been far more action-driven, like Wrath of Khan and First Contact). Additionally, the design of that ship is supposed to be un-Trek. It's supposed to represent everything the Enterprise does not. That was kind of the whole point.

I'd also argue that if you actually think carefully about the plot, there are less plotholes than you think. When I was discussing the movie with some friends, a lot of the plotholes they thought existed were taken care of; they had just forgotten some of the movie's dialog.

I would love to see a section 31 movie out of this universe!

There was one review I read that was titled "Star Trek Into Dumbness". I really agree with that title (and most of the review's assessment).

I didn't like the film too much. I think it tried too hard to pay hommage to older Trek films. And it was still plagued by the immense plot holes and general stupidness of the first reboot movie. If you think about most of the plotlines of the movie for a minute, the whole thing sorta falls apart.

It's still an enjoyable movie for many of its action scenes and some of its ideas. But like its predecessor it's simply driven by action instead of stories or characters. It felt really mediocre to me in the end.

There are some things I'm not thrilled about at all: I don't get how Khan went from Ricardo Montalban to Benedict Cumberbatch. It doesn't make any sense and they don't try to explain it away. At all.

I also hate the U.S.S. Vengeance. It embodies a lot of what I think is wrong with the new Star Trek universe. The name alone is the opposite of subtlety and creativeness. The look of it is even more enraging to me. It's gross and untrek - not unlike some of the early STO designs (that even the devs are embarrassed about by now). And building a large vessel of mass destruction without anyone noticing? Yeah, Nemesis did that as well...

I really enjoyed the film i really really did and it was visually stunning.

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Yes, one of the villains in the movie is Khan. However, he's also been whitewashed, as he is now played by the (very) white Benedict Cumberbatch instead of a man of color, as he originally was by Ricardo Montalban. Yeah, there are going to be the excuses that it was done to keep who he really was a secret. However, the fact that casting Khan as a race other than white would have given it away already speaks volumes of the major diversity problem in Hollywood.

The gorn baby line was cute, but I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't have any Kirk vs Gorn fight scene to lead into that. Also disappointed that it was, apparently, several years off of the Gorn's forced introduction to Starfleet. Oh well.

I am none too happy with JJ taking my beloved Star Trek and having his way with it, but apart from that, I thought it was an amazing film and felt infinitely more like Star Trek than his previous attempt.

Also, were there any easter eggs at the end of the credits? My friends all rushed me out of the theatre during the credits, the jerks.

Loved it. Started an alternative thread for people who liked it to talk about how awesome it is. Was only disappointed at some 'whitewashing' that was done with regard to the villain.

With regard to the android, he may have also been a cybernetic human. Maybe he had a brain tumor or something as a kid?

Also loved all the apocryphal references. In addition to the ones you mentioned...

Starting a thread for people to pour some love on the new film, as the other one is one serious fountain of negativity.

I personally loved the movie. If you didn't like the reboot, yeah, you're not going to like this. However, if you're willing to let the alternate Star Trek universe go into some different and (quite frankly cool) places, you will love this movie. I went with a horde of Trekkies and we enjoyed practically every minute.

Yeah, it's not perfect. The end of the movie starts to get a bit weird (there's one contradiction with an establishment shot and one of the last scenes drags a bit), but it doesn't harm the movie.

Most of the complaints I've read/heard about the movie are rather nitpicky. If you go in with the same open-mindedness that's required to enjoy the last movie (and quite frankly, most other Star Trek movies), you will have a great time.

Also, for those well-versed in Trek historical apocrypha, this movie does an amazing job of couching its story in the larger Trek universes.

Finally: FUCK YEAH USING THE NATIONAL IGNITION FACILITY AS THE WARP CORE! As a scientist and someone how has visited the NIF at Lawrence Livermore, I thought that was super cool.

Adendum: I should add that there was one thing that did bug me about this movie in a significant way. However, it relates to a spoiler that you may or may not have seen coming. Soooo it's hidden in the spoiler text.

So I just saw the new JJverse trek offering and it was great! It was an amazing Star Wars movie and I think he's going to be very happy at Disney.

Just to be a b*tch, here's what got my geek fluids flowing:
-Praxis about 40 years too soon
-Android on the bridge?
-Golden ridged Klingons

I liked it far more than I liked the 2009 film. It felt more like Star Trek than the first one, to me.

Yes I was disappointed that



But beyond that, I really... REALLY enjoyed this film.

I was especially pleased towards the end when



Also:



And that's all I have to say about that. (for now :3)

Ok, let's see here. I've been with my BF for 14+ years. In that time we've had about 5 dates (not counting our anniversary vacation in NY). What made them dates? They were an enjoyable and at times intimate series of events in a day that we normally don't get to do.

For example:
One date consisted of going to a nice lunch where we took our time eating and talking and joking around and just being silly. After that we went to the movies and after that we had a lovely dinner in a fun restaurant.

Another date was far less elaborate. We went out for sandwiches one afternoon, took a ride to the historical part of center city Philadelphia, sat at a bench in a park and talked for over 6 hours, eventually coming home around 2 AM.

Now, the reason I don't count the NY trip is because that was a 2 day dateathon, but that's kind of the point of a romantic vacation. On day one we went and saw a Broadway show, walked all over times square, had a nice dinner and went to the Empire State Building. On day two we walked all over central park, went to museums and the zoo and had a romantic dinner at a french restaurant.

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We'll you just saved me the 10 bux,sounds like the new trek is like fast food yeah its food but its not nutrition.

Yes, but is it Chik-fil-e fast food whereby your soul will burn for all eternity for partaking of it or is it more Burger King fast food that just takes several months off the end of your life?

We'll you just saved me the 10 bux,sounds like the new trek is like fast food yeah its food but its not nutrition.

I'm hoping this has already been done, but I just want to add that it's a great idea. I'm not sure how Hillbane would feel about this, but I know we would all feel better to be able to pay our respects in a way he would enjoy and appreciate.

I would have to disagree with the majority, I loved the film.

I'm aware of the failings of story in that we have seen it before, but that is to be expected as we knew we have seen it before, just in a different timeline.

J.J. Abrams was trying to get a new generation of fans to love Star Trek, so he used the favourite bad guys and plot tricks that we all loved first time we saw them, but he wanted to keep the faithful fans entertained, so he gave us some great in-jokes and classic references to drool over.

I prefer this film to the last, simply for the nostalgia aspect and the fact that the new alternate characters are established and we don't need to waste time getting to know them. This one was all action, just a pity we couldn't see half the action due to the lens flare effects.

Disappointment is the correct word to use.

I could write a long review but honestly you could read one of the other thousands of reviews to find all the points I'd make but I will sum up my feelings about Into Darkness in one sentence:

Star Trek (2009) is the much better film.

Disclaimer: I say that still having enjoyed Into Darkness and looking forward to seeing it again.

Disagree alot, i really enjoyed the film. Also i really liked the nods to older films that we have seen.

Unfortunately I have to agree here. I was really disappointed in this one and it sorta felt like the writers couldn't come up with something original, so they decided to slap together a bunch of scenes from previous stories and added a little filler in between.


As always, the special effects were up to par but the storyline was really lacking. This is the first Star Trek movie where I kept wondering when it would end. :(

I think Rod Roddenberry had it right when he said that he felt that the Star Trek franchise belonged on television and not the movies.

I gave up on dating for what seemed like the millionth time, and I met my partner as an online casual hookup lol. Now we live together and are engaged.